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I'm currently locked out of Games for Windows Live for Grand Theft Auto IV because of too many reinstallations and can only create an offline profile which will not have access to multiplayer or achivements.  I'm supposed to get a callback within 24 hours but have not received a callback.  I was on the phone with RockStar and they said to call Microsoft and then when I call Microsoft they turn around and tell me to call RockStar.  That's not fair because I paid $50 to own the game, not rent it.

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Is the activation limit time-based or lifetime?

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The limits will be removed in Version 3 of Games for Windows Live coming this summer according to http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-US/Community/NewsArticles/Pages/gfwldrewinterview.aspx.  Edit: this link no longer works.

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Instead of limiting the number of installs, just tie the CD key to only one account like in steam.

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clix08 replied on Mon, May 4 2009 1:15 PM

Hello FooFoo Jam,

I know the information may seen a little redundant but I can assure you that it is information that the Games for Windows Live Team does require in order to assist you. Can you please reply to this thread with your reference number because right now we can't assist you if we do not know who you are.

 

Regards,

GFWL Specialist.

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My reference number is 1100813491.

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clix08 replied on Mon, May 4 2009 4:16 PM

Thank you Keith,

You're case has been escalated. Check your email.

 

Regards,

GFWL Support

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I have recently uninstalled Grand Theft Auto IV and the Games for Windows Live software and deleted the C:\Users\Keith\AppData\Local\Microsoft\XLive folder and the HKCU\Software\Classes\Software\Microsoft\Xlive registry entry because the game is basically useless when I can't sign in.

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I have been asked the same questions by a Live Specialist.

Hello Keith,

My name is Amanda, I'm with the Games For Windows LIVE Support Team

I've reviewed your case and to better assist you while getting you back to gaming we would require the following information:
 
-What version of Windows are you running (including any service packs)?
-What anti-virus, anti-spam, or internet security is installed on your computer?
-What exact error codes or messages, if any, are you receiving when trying to access?
-What is the best 2 hour time frame for us to call you at (between 10am and 10 pm EST)?
-How is your computer connected to the internet and what are the make and models or your router/modem?
-What is the name of the PC Live game you are having issues with?
 
If you do require further assistance, please reply to this email and either myself or another specialist will be more than happy to further assist you.
If the issue has already been resolved, please let us know that it has been resolved and how you resolved it.
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I finally received a new product key from a GFWL specialist named Tom. and it now works.  I was asked for the old product key and I gave it to the specialist via email.  I asked why they can't reactivate the old product key and they said they don't have access to the product key and how many times it was installed.  They don't have access to the database where the product key is stored.

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Games for Windows Live uses a PC ID which is stored in the registry at HKCU\Software\Classes\Software\Microsoft\Xlive and if this key is deleted or I reformat the computer it uses up another activation.  The PC ID is also displayed in the network tab of the Games for Windows Live settings.  Each time Games for Windows Live is reinstalled it generates a random PC ID which counts toward the activation limit.

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