Issue Type - NAT Type : Strict

Game Title - GTA 4

Error Verbatim - NAT Type too strict

Where was the game purschases and in what format? Retail Store DVD Format

GT - You GamerTag (DO NOT POST YOUR ACCOUNT PASSWORDS - IF YOU DO - YOUR POST WILL BE DELETED) Gizzass

PC/360 - PC

ISP - Optus pppoe

Conneciton Type - ADSL

Router Make/Model/FW version - Belkin Modem/Router Model: F5D8636-4 Frimware:1.00.03r cument.write(runtime_code_version)

Network Type - Home Workgroup

Network Location - Home

Windows version? Windows XP Professional SP3 Windows System Type? 32 bit

Firewall / Security Software - Router Firewall, Avast 4.8 Professtional

LIVE Connection - Yes Can you signin to LIVE with the LIVE Client for Windows (GFWL Marketplace)? Yes If you have more than one Games for Windows LIVE PC game, can any of those games connect? Yes       Note: Ok here goes.   I was playing GTA 4 online a few months back fine, NAT type was Open and had no issues I was using a dedicated modem and router however the modem failed and I have recently bought a Modem/Router and now im getting NAT type Strict.   I have opened all the ports needed for GFWL and GTA 4 Windows Firewall is turned off UPNP is enabled

2 things

everything else being equal, open your NAT or enable it on your router.  MTU should be 1500

Are all the ports needed to be open, opened?

 

also, if you are PPPOE and you have a new router, you may have to choose this connection type in your router and put in your ISP ID and password that you were given.  Do you have a separate Modem, or is the Modem/router the only device between your PC and the telephone line?

By the way, a modem/router is technically called a gateway.

As far as I can see I dont have an option in my router that allows me turn turn my NAT open moderate etc unless its called something different.

 

MTU is set at 1500

 

All ports are opened. Here is a link to a screeny:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7035/portsuc.jpg

 

I am PPPOE and ISP details have been entered.

 

I did have a dedicated modem and router but the modem failed and now this modem/router (or Gateway) is the only device between PC and phone line.

I suggest getting out your router manual and brush up on accessing and modifying it. NAT is usually a part of the router/gateway features.

you may want to contact you ISP just to be sure they aren't controlling it because they do sometimes.

Is your UPnP enabled in your gateway as well?

Did you open all 6 ports?

you may want to contact you ISP just to be sure they aren't controlling it because they do sometimes.

 

The aren't.

 

Is your UPnP enabled in your gateway as well?

 

Yes

 

Did you open all 6 ports?

 

Yes. Refer to my screenshot I linked in my previous post.

 

I suggest getting out your router manual and brush up on accessing and modifying it. NAT is usually a part of the router/gateway features.

 

There is no straight option that allows me to change my NAT setting, it seems belkins answer to NAT relating issues is the use of DMZ.

So after playing some more here is what I discovered:

1. When I set my comp to the DMZ and Firewall turned on, my NAT type changes to open.... (problem solved I suppose).

2. When DMZ is disabled and the firewall is disabled, my NAT type is set to strict.

 

My understanding of DMZ is that it puts the designated device/PC outside the protection of the Firewall, If so then why the hell is my NAT type still set to strict when my Firewall is turned off all together?

Gizzass:

 

My understanding of DMZ is that it puts the designated device/PC outside the protection of the Firewall, If so then why the hell is my NAT type still set to strict when my Firewall is turned off all together?

All I can say is maybe to contact your router manufacturer for tech support or see about a different router that is more configurable.

Good luck.

By the way, did you get all your issues resolved?

Gizzass:

Is your UPnP enabled in your gateway as well?

 

Yes

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941206

Have you done this along with enabling UPNP on your gateway?

After enabling UPNP on your network device & through your OS. Try method 1, then 2 of this post. http://forums.gamesforwindows.com/t/785.aspx

Changing System Settings
The “System Settings” page is where you can enter a new administrator password, set the time zone, enable remote management, and turn on and off the NAT function of the Router.

Problem- Can't Connect to Live

System- PC

Operating System- XP

Gamer Tag- Lef0rt

Router- Netgear WPN824v2

Connection type- wireless

Able to Connect in past? yes


When I try to log in I get an error message saying I can't connect. I checked my Network status and it says my UPnP is not signed in, I've already concluded this is the problem. I've talked to tech support and forwarded all my ports successfully, I've got UPnP enabled on my router as well. I've disabled my firewalls and anti-viruses and still have yet to log on.  I'm lost and confused, games I enjoy online with pals are GFWL enabled and this prevents me from playing them. So immediate help in finding a solution will be much appreciated.

@Lef0rt

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Issue Type - e.g. LIVE Connectivity

Game Title - what is the game with the issue and what is the version, tilte update? If so, what is the version of the game? Event logs should give an indication (refer to Troubleshooting 101 post)

Error Verbatim - specific on screen Error and Event Log error Detail the steps to reproduce the issue, detailing each mouse click or button push on the controller is always helpful.

Where was the game purschases and in what format? For example: new retail boxed title from gamestop, Direct2Drive, Best Buy, Steam, Ebay (used), etc.

GT - Lef0rt

PC/360 - Do you also own a Xbox 360? If so, can it connect to LIVE? It is important to not overlook this quesiton.

ISP - who is your Internet Service Provider Do you have a PPPoE or direct connection to Internet not needing to provide a username or password to connect?

Conneciton Type - dial-up, DSL, ADSL, FioS (fiber), Cable, Satellite, Cellular (cell phone device connected to data provider),

Router Make/Model/FW version - WPN824v2 - wireless to pc

Network Type - single pc to router/modem, home workgorup, domain, Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)

Network Location - home, school (dorm), public library, work

Windows version Windows XP SP ? Press Start > Run >type WINVER > press OK - provide version and build number, if displayed. Windows System Type? (Bit version) 32bit  or 64bit To check: Right click My Computer > Left click Properties > listed in System section.

Firewall / Security Software - using a combination router firewall? or windows firewall, or a 3rd party firewall such as an Anti-Virus & Firewall security applicaiton? what is the version and who makes the AV/FW software?

LIVE Connection - have you ever connected to LIVE with a PC game in the past or is this your first attempt? Can you signin to LIVE with the LIVE Client for Windows (GFWL Marketplace)? If you have more than one Games for Windows LIVE PC game, can any of those games connect?

I'm having a simple problem where GFWL selects the wrong IP address of several which are configured on the adapter in question.. I've seen the 'ConnectionOverride' registry setting to force GFWL to use a separate adapter if more than one is installed, but is there a similar, simple fix for forcing GFWL to use a specific IP address?? Seems rather silly if not :( I can connect to GFWL fine with the standalone client, the issue arises when trying to connect from within GTAIV (and I guess any other game which doesn't pre-select the source IP address - GTAIV is the first game I've tried which uses GFWL for multiplayer gaming). There may be other issues, but right now that appears to be the main stumbling block. As far as I can see there shouldn't be any issues with firewalling of ports and so on, but I can only check that once GFWL uses my primary public IP address rather than a private address which has no routing :) Any ideas? I've trawled various forums and can't see an easy solution..

Din0r1mad:

but is there a similar, simple fix for forcing GFWL to use a specific IP address?

I am not sure if there is a simpler way with out knowing the specifics of your connection. You may be able to disable the connections which do not connect to the internet, However it sounds like you do not want to do this.

You can try this: However I am not sure if you will find an "EASY SOLUTION" If you do try this solution remember to back up your registry in case something goes wrong.

 

THINGS TO TRY

Cheers for the pointers and quick reply.. My internet connectivity is AOK apart from GFWL choosing the wrong IP address. IE works just fine when I need to use it. GWFL works fine as a standalone client - I can see the marketplace and so on. I've already configured GFWL to use the right adapter using the ConnectionOverride reg hack. I was hoping there might be something similar to force it to use a specific source IP address too :) UPnP is disabled, but I'm unsure why it would need to use that when I have punched holes through the firewall(s) and similar (plus it looks like it'll still have problems in picking up the public IP address rather than one of my private addresses - yes I've got three IP addresses allocated to the adapter in question; talk about greedy! :P)

same problem. have 2 IP's(one for LAN, second for Internet). and connection to internet going through LAN. GFWL sets my Internet IP as Local IP.

sorry for bad English.

OS: XP SP2

gamertag: ManOne krsk

games: GTA4, Dawn Of War 2.

ManOne krsk:

OS: XP SP2

Sorry, sp3 ofc.