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Re: Mac Help

thewindowsfreak — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:14:07 GMT

Anchel:

The Communizer:

one more question though. Lets say my friend becomes mentally impaired for a minute and downloads a virus. Mac OS would be fine Windows would just be Screwed up?

In 99.9% of the cases Mac OS will remain absolutely unaffected.

As for Windows, it's not like all viruses inmediatly destroy the computer, so it doesn't have to get screwed up.

Bootcamp WILL allow him to play Halo 2 and Dawn of War II on low settings, but it'd be useful to know what Mac he has to confirm. Also, don't forget that even with Bootcamp he will still need a Windows Vista installation (Vista if he wants to play Halo 2 without using hacks)

If you have Windows 7 or Windows Vista with a good viruse software, you would not have as much of a chanch of gettinvg a viruse.

Re: Mac Help

Anchel — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:46:38 GMT

The Communizer:

one more question though. Lets say my friend becomes mentally impaired for a minute and downloads a virus. Mac OS would be fine Windows would just be Screwed up?

In 99.9% of the cases Mac OS will remain absolutely unaffected.

As for Windows, it's not like all viruses inmediatly destroy the computer, so it doesn't have to get screwed up.

Bootcamp WILL allow him to play Halo 2 and Dawn of War II on low settings, but it'd be useful to know what Mac he has to confirm. Also, don't forget that even with Bootcamp he will still need a Windows Vista installation (Vista if he wants to play Halo 2 without using hacks)

Re: Mac Help

The Communizer — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:52:40 GMT

jedimasterc06:

If you want to game on PC then don't buy a MAC. If you want to do it then do it properly.

Get a proper PC.

Let me say Again HE IS STUCK WITH THE MAC he already owns it. its done.

his parents are scared of viruses so they bought it. he just wants to play halo 2/DOW on lowest setting. Would boot camp allow it?\

Thx Anchel and cookieman for the great help

one more question though. Lets say my friend becomes mentally impaired for a minute and downloads a virus. Mac OS would be fine Windows would just be Screwed up?

Re: Mac Help

jedimasterc06 — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:37:10 GMT

If you want to game on PC then don't buy a MAC. If you want to do it then do it properly.

Get a proper PC.

Re: Mac Help

Anchel — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:57:14 GMT

jedimasterc06:

The guy is right. If it is a games for windows game then he will need to install windows. Only Mac games will play on macintoshes. As long as it is used to play games I don't see any problems with viruses. Especially if you get a good anti virus or spyware package. Just don't use norton because it is a piece of dog doo.

Try CA, Trend Micro, Kaperski if you want to buy a solution. If you want a free solution then you have avg, avast, panda cloud. If you want open source then you have clam win.

As for parallels I wouldn't trust it for gaming. Maybe other stuff but your going to get serious speed issues.

However, if you want a proper gaming rig then save your money and build it yourself. Any serious gamer will laugh at you for trying to game on an imac. Get yourself a steering wheel, wireless 360 controller for windows or 2, a good wireless kb and mouse.

If you hook it up to your lounge room tv and a good 5.1 system you should get a nice looking home theatre PC Case.

He mentioned from the very beginning it's for a friend of his. Plus, he doesn't want a gaming computer, he just wants to be able to play the Star Wars MMORPG. It's obvious that if he just wants that he's not going to buy a new expensive computer. If the Mac is not too old it will be more than enough for him.

He will just have to use Bootcamp and that will be more than enough.

Also, if he uses Bootcamp it's quite probable that even if he caught a virus, the Mac OS will remain intact.

Re: Mac Help

The Communizer — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 02:54:20 GMT

O this is not for me. he has 6000 dollars of his own money his parents just say the imac is fine. i myself and getting a expensive computer soon.

Re: Mac Help

jedimasterc06 — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:25:51 GMT

The guy is right. If it is a games for windows game then he will need to install windows. Only Mac games will play on macintoshes. As long as it is used to play games I don't see any problems with viruses. Especially if you get a good anti virus or spyware package. Just don't use norton because it is a piece of dog doo.

Try CA, Trend Micro, Kaperski if you want to buy a solution. If you want a free solution then you have avg, avast, panda cloud. If you want open source then you have clam win.

As for parallels I wouldn't trust it for gaming. Maybe other stuff but your going to get serious speed issues.

However, if you want a proper gaming rig then save your money and build it yourself. Any serious gamer will laugh at you for trying to game on an imac. Get yourself a steering wheel, wireless 360 controller for windows or 2, a good wireless kb and mouse.

If you hook it up to your lounge room tv and a good 5.1 system you should get a nice looking home theatre PC Case.

Re: Mac Help

Anchel — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:54:24 GMT

Cookiemann:

I did understand his question ;)

I do self have bootcamp on my PC, with Windows 7 RC1 and Vista.

And I have downloaded a tons a bulls*it from the internet, and still never got any viruses. The only thing I tried where my PC died, was when my harddrive failed... So I got a new one.

So he didn't understand the answer

You have bootcamp on your PC?? How is that even possible?

And I think he did understand the answer perfectly, but the answer was't the right one he needed.

Now, about the virus thing. You don't have to convince me about Windows being a safe environment. I'm a Windows user and I stick with it because I like it. But you can't deny or downplay that there's millions of viruses that are specifically designed to attack Windows only. If you haven't got any virus yet even when you're downloading all sorts of things that is because you are either sensible enough not to open everything or because you have a strong antivirus.

I take great care into what I do online, but even then I still have encountered myself with a virus or two, likely from an email I've received from a friend who was infected (but never caused any big trouble anyway).

Re: Mac Help

Cookiemann — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:24:35 GMT

Anchel:

Cookiemann:

The Communizer:

Jasestyle:

I think its called Games for WINDOWS....

Do you even know what boot camp is....

don't you see what his answer is to you?

If the game is branded Games for WINDOWS, then you CAN't run it on Mac OSX (unless you use a program that do the same thing as bootcamp)

But else say to your friend, look at the cover!

If it says "PC and MAC" then he can play it on a mac, but if it only says "PC", then it can only be played on a PC / a computer with Windows

btw, who have tolled his parents that virus comes with Windows :S, I have never had one.

You obviously didn't understand his question...

He knows that it's Games for Windows, and that's why he's asking about alternative ways of playing without using Bootcamp. In case you didn't know, Bootcamp is an easy and legit way of, say, playing Windows games on a Mac. It's not an emulator, it's not any weird way of installing the games. It's just running Windows on a Mac. After all, the hardware is the same nowadays.

Now, if he wants to convince his parents about installing Windows on Bootcamp, he should explain that as long as he has a free antivirus solution there's not much to worry about. In fact, it'd be as risky as running Mac without antivirus. Also, if he installs Windows Vista (or WIndows 7 in the very near future) he's probably not gonna find any viruses at all since the security measures are much much better than on XP.

There's a lot of dangerous viruses on PCs, sure. But as long as you are a sensible person and you don't start downloading pirated software from untrusted sources you're bound to have a very happy, safe experience on Windows.

I did understand his question ;)

I do self have bootcamp on my PC, with Windows 7 RC1 and Vista.

And I have downloaded a tons a bulls*it from the internet, and still never got any viruses. The only thing I tried where my PC died, was when my harddrive failed... So I got a new one.

So he didn't understand the answer

Re: Mac Help

Anchel — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:30:46 GMT

Cookiemann:

The Communizer:

Jasestyle:

I think its called Games for WINDOWS....

Do you even know what boot camp is....

don't you see what his answer is to you?

If the game is branded Games for WINDOWS, then you CAN't run it on Mac OSX (unless you use a program that do the same thing as bootcamp)

But else say to your friend, look at the cover!

If it says "PC and MAC" then he can play it on a mac, but if it only says "PC", then it can only be played on a PC / a computer with Windows

btw, who have tolled his parents that virus comes with Windows :S, I have never had one.

You obviously didn't understand his question...

He knows that it's Games for Windows, and that's why he's asking about alternative ways of playing without using Bootcamp. In case you didn't know, Bootcamp is an easy and legit way of, say, playing Windows games on a Mac. It's not an emulator, it's not any weird way of installing the games. It's just running Windows on a Mac. After all, the hardware is the same nowadays.

Now, if he wants to convince his parents about installing Windows on Bootcamp, he should explain that as long as he has a free antivirus solution there's not much to worry about. In fact, it'd be as risky as running Mac without antivirus. Also, if he installs Windows Vista (or WIndows 7 in the very near future) he's probably not gonna find any viruses at all since the security measures are much much better than on XP.

There's a lot of dangerous viruses on PCs, sure. But as long as you are a sensible person and you don't start downloading pirated software from untrusted sources you're bound to have a very happy, safe experience on Windows.

Re: Mac Help

The Communizer — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:54:34 GMT

i know about the GFW things i was just talking about the star wars mmo boot camp for windows games.

Anyway they had a exchange student eho pirated stuff and they lost there computer to a virus.

there macs already crashed twice btw bu tif anyone can right a convincing piece to give to his parents that would be good.

(i just dont know about macs....)

Re: Mac Help

Cookiemann — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:47:28 GMT

The Communizer:

Jasestyle:

I think its called Games for WINDOWS....

Do you even know what boot camp is....

don't you see what his answer is to you?

If the game is branded Games for WINDOWS, then you CAN't run it on Mac OSX (unless you use a program that do the same thing as bootcamp)

But else say to your friend, look at the cover!

If it says "PC and MAC" then he can play it on a mac, but if it only says "PC", then it can only be played on a PC / a computer with Windows

btw, who have tolled his parents that virus comes with Windows :S, I have never had one.

Re: Mac Help

Anchel — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:46:27 GMT

Ok so I'm not a Mac user but (I think) I know just enough about the topic to be able to answer:

1. YES, you can play PC games on a Mac without using Bootcamp, but you would have to run some virtualization software like Parallels, which is basically doing the same thing as Bootcamp but while still inside a Mac environment.

2. Installing Windows doesn't inmediatly mean you get viruses. Plus, there's many free antivirus services that work awesomely well, just like AVG. WHAT IS MORE, Microsoft is releasing in the next two weeks their own free antivirus, called Microsoft Security Essentials, which is bound to be one of the best free antiviruses, mainly because Microsoft has the biggest database recollection of Windows incidents to report and fix as soon as possible with updates (after all Windows users are the biggest share of the market, so their antivirus is taking advantage of those reports).

In any case, if he wants to play those games he will still have to buy a Windows DVD, Bootcamp or not.

Re: Mac Help

The Communizer — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:35:37 GMT

Jasestyle:

I think its called Games for WINDOWS....

Do you even know what boot camp is....

Re: Mac Help

EpicScroll — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:41:35 GMT

Jasestyle:

I think its called Games for WINDOWS....

?. Just answer his question or don't answer.