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First thing, NEVER update your BIOS unless you know for SURE it addresses an issue required to improve YOUR system, otherwise these updates at best are unnecessary.

In your case it sounds like the BIOS update is useful ONLY if you are using an AMD CPU, if you have an Intel CPU it is going to not give you any added benefits at this time.

 

What I do suggest is getting a hold of Memtest86+ (direct link to download, but suggest visiting SITE first) That link will download the USB key version of the program, if you go to the site you can get an ISO version.

OR do an internet search for any number of memory testing programs.

I'm saying this because it sounds like your memory could be the problem.

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putting the update on an iso when the manufacturer is saying to do it from a floppy is a bad idea. BIOS updates should only be done if you require features added in the update or are having stability issues with your system.

Updating the BIOS should always be done very carefully and with a UPS hooked up.

But saying that booting from a CD or DVD and not a floppy at best is misleading and at worse patently false.

you have to understand what is happening when you boot from a CD or floppy. 

First all MOBO's for the last 10 years or more can boot from a CD at the very least. This is a DOS process.  It loads the basic program into the computers memory, not on the hard drive.

Then you point the program to the binary on the CD.  Or the floppy if you have one.  But what PC has a floppy any more??????????????

I have always done this from a CD except the first PC I built which was in '96, but since then all my BIOS updates have been from a CD, or in the last 6 or 7 years, from windows.

I have yet to brick a MOBO because of this.  When Gigabyte came out with Dual BIOS boards, I have stuck with them for the most part and have had no issues with their boards.

Educate yourself and make sure you understand about the BIOS, flashing, MOBO designs, and importantly, when viewing BIOS updates, check backwards to see all the updates from the first revision up because for some reason they only list the update in the current revision even though the latest will have all other updates before it.

So what it comes down to is education, and the reason you want to update the BIOS in the first place.  I have always kept my firmware updated no matter what.  But that is personal choice.

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so do a BIOS flash that goes wrong usinga  method not described on the manufacturers website (such as booting from CD where they say do it via floppy), then see how much help you get from them. I can tell you the answer is none.

Ifa  component manufacturer says to do thinsg a certain way, follow their instructions, doing anything else will most likely invalidate any kind of warranty or repair service offered.

Did I say you can't do it via CD? nope i didn't. but as the OP seemed to have little to no confidence in what he wanted to do, the best (& in my opinion ONLY advise) that should be given is to go to the manufactu=ers website & follow the instructions. he can get additional support direct from the sourse in most cases if he needs it.

Giving advise to people that can potentially kill hardware & leave them stranded without any kind of recourse it just irresponsible.

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fred126 replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 4:44 PM

thanks for ur help i have another problem know i thing it would seem one of my ram is bad is there any way to test it to make sure 

i find it strange as soon as i start to run windows 7 a whole set of problems occur, when i was running xp no problems 

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fred126:

 it would seem one of my ram is bad is there any way to test it to make sure 

see the foolowing for memtesting info

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First thing, NEVER update your BIOS unless you know for SURE it addresses an issue required to improve YOUR system, otherwise these updates at best are unnecessary.

In your case it sounds like the BIOS update is useful ONLY if you are using an AMD CPU, if you have an Intel CPU it is going to not give you any added benefits at this time.

 

What I do suggest is getting a hold of Memtest86+ (direct link to download, but suggest visiting SITE first) That link will download the USB key version of the program, if you go to the site you can get an ISO version.

OR do an internet search for any number of memory testing programs.

I'm saying this because it sounds like your memory could be the problem.

 

 

fred126:

i find it strange as soon as i start to run windows 7 a whole set of problems occur, when i was running xp no problems 

it happens. Could be that XP was not using all of your RAm & windows 7 is pushing it a  little harder. The fault could have been there all along, just XP never exposed it.

RAM is pretty cheap these days, so not too bad if you do have to replace it.

Also did you check the voltage on your RAM sticks & make sure the RAM voltage in the BIOS settings matches?

 

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fred126 replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 5:56 PM

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maybe it's cause your jumping from xp to 7? I mean what are your pc specs, can you run 7? I had to do small upgrades to go from xp to vista, so, maybe you need alot of upgrades if your jumping from xp  to 7

my pc spec are ECS motherboard, 512 nvidia 8400gs, phenom quad core, 250GB hard drive

 

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fred126 replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 6:01 PM

how to u check the voltage on bios

ram stick i think is DDR:2.6 + 0.1V/ DDR2:1.8 +0.1V

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Bios may have a option to see the values.

If the PC still crashes when you use both sticks of ram, try to change the ram around inside the slots, or try troubleshooting to see if you can figure out which stick is the problem

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fred126 replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 6:53 PM

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Bios may have a option to see the values.

If the PC still crashes when you use both sticks of ram, try to change the ram around inside the slots, or try troubleshooting to see if you can figure out which stick is the problem

 

ok, i ran my pc with only the one that i believe giving trouble and i got a blue screen, but i don't want to believe it bad since i was using it with windows xp black

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Did you do a clean install, or was it just a upgrade of XP?

If you have some extra money, head down to your local PC store & buy some brand new ram. Put it in & if it still crashes, then it it is more likely a software problem. Return the ram for your money back.

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fred126 replied on Mon, Nov 2 2009 7:16 PM

InGlocksWeTrust:

Did you do a clean install, or was it just a upgrade of XP?

If you have some extra money, head down to your local PC store & buy some brand new ram. Put it in & if it still crashes, then it it is more likely a software problem. Return the ram for your money back.

 

a clean install and unfortuantely we can carry back thing to the store when we purcahse it say for instance ram if i buy one and say it not working they will test it and if it work by them they will give you it back lol

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There's another way to install Windows7 instead of crapping up your MB

I leave my mark...

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fred126 replied on Tue, Nov 3 2009 5:50 AM

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There's another way to install Windows7 instead of crapping up your MB

 

how

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fred126:
i find it strange as soon as i start to run windows 7 a whole set of problems occur, when i was running xp no problems 

 

How old is your Mobo?  You shouldn't be having any issues.  run a mem test as described earlier and go to Microsoft Windows 7 and run a compatibility test.

At the very least you need a processor running at 1.0Ghz, 1Gb of ram and 16 to 20Gb of HDD space.  Then there is issues of your graphics card, etc.

How big is your HDD?

You should be doing some research and homework and make sure you are able to run Windows 7.  And for those who think that you need a floppy to update the BIOS, again, how old is your Mobo?????

I have not seen a BIOS update that has required a floppy in over 12 years!!

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